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Old November 7th, 2009, 12:50 AM     #31 (permalink)
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SATA vs IDE, not really any difference, IDE burners don't max out an IDE aka PATA connection anyways, main advantage is smaller cables, more flexible cable also for SATA. Downside, unlike PATA you can only plug one drive into SATA, where as PATA you could have 2 IDE drives on one port.

slim DVD burners are designed for laptops, slim External drive kits, small form factor systems (Micro ATX, Flex ATX, Mini ITX type platforms), but yes, if a case has a bay for a slim drive, or you can get a conversion kit for it to fit in a normal 5.25" bay (most likely would have to custom make your own front panel to fit it in). you can use them in a desktop PC, but the down side is they are much more expensive in general than their fullsize counterparts.

unless your building a specialty small form factor system, some sort of special custom modified PC, or upgrading a laptop, forget about the slim drives and just grab a regular full size one, which ever is cheaper SATA or PATA, or if you value having smaller cables that take up less room, increase airflow in case, are more flexible for cable management and you have a spare SATA port to use, then grab a SATA drive.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 04:34 PM     #32 (permalink)
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Im having a really hard time choosing between these 2 cpus... What would you choose for performance wise. Price does not matter.

I deiced I want the 3.2 or 3.4 instead of the 3.0 I think its makes sense for the price wise only like $40 dif from 3.0 to 3.4 ghz

What are your thoughts or opinions?

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 140W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops


Would like to change from this cpu to one of the above to.

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

**Still picking out parts**



Also does it make sense to stick with this MOBO or upgrade for proformance wise?
Newegg.com - ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

Also thoughts on this RAM. Is it pretty good?

Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT - Desktop Memory



Such decisions to make lol, I think im gonna drive my self nuts.

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Old November 7th, 2009, 04:36 PM     #33 (permalink)
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Will you be overclocking at all?
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Old November 7th, 2009, 04:48 PM     #34 (permalink)
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Will you be overclocking at all?


Im not sure, would you recommenced it? (Im pretty new to overclocking but am a fast learner)

How much could you over clock a cpu like that, guess what im asking is it worth it.......

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Old November 7th, 2009, 04:53 PM     #35 (permalink)
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Im not sure, would you recommenced it? (Im pretty new to overclocking but am a fast learner)

Yes, its quite straigt forward, all you would need extra is a good aftermarket cooler

How much could you over clock a cpu like that, guess what im asking is it worth it.......

Depending on the motherboard/cpu I would say 3.7-3.8.

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If you will be overclocking pick up this one....

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Processors - Desktops

You might want to look at a better mobo though if you will be..... a 790 would be a good idea....

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

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Old November 7th, 2009, 05:09 PM     #36 (permalink)
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OK great. Thank for the fast reply.

May I ask why I would go with this if the speed its 3.0ghz compared to the 3.2 or 3.4, or cant the 3.2 or 3.4 be overclocked as well
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Is that cpu the best bang for your buck and then you can overclock it to 3.6+ to get better performance then the 3.2 or 3.4

Im just trying to understand.


Ill go with the above cpu and mobo as you said.

Also what cooler would you recommend?

With that mobo there is no on board video. Does that mean in need a separate video card?

Thanks

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Old November 7th, 2009, 05:14 PM     #37 (permalink)
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That is pretty much exactly it... why pay more for higher clock speed when you can overclock it yourself.

This is a good performing cheap cooler...

Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm Fluid Dynamic CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

hear good things from this also....

Newegg.com - Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

(newegg really needs to sort out the quick search on the left for coolers).

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With that mobo there is no on board video. Does that mean in need a separate video card?

Whoops, im too used to avoiding the boards with on-board video....

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

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Old November 7th, 2009, 06:46 PM     #38 (permalink)
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Great..... That mobo is the one im looking for. The video on that is alot better then this one correct?

Newegg.com - ASRock M3A785GMH/128M AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
Onboard Video Chipset Integrated AMD Radeon HD 4200 graphics, built-in 128MB DDR3 1333(OC)/1200MHz SidePort Memory


Also what does it mean with it says

Memory Standard DDR3 1666(O.C.)/1333/1066

That mobo only will work with DDR3 1666 speed ram?

What ram would you suggest then? I guess 4gig would be the normal amount.. Mabay something like this?
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Desktop Memory

What would you suggest.


Im sticking with your cpu and mobo you suggested, I like it so I all I really need is the ram and I got the basic guts of the pc

Thanks, I really appreciate your help
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Im afraid not no, the 4200 is a little better.

As to the Ram the board supports 1066/1333 (and 1666 if you overclock it). So the stuff you have now will work fine.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 09:24 PM     #40 (permalink)
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Im little confused. To make it simple for me, what mobo and ram would work with this cpu the 3.0 ,but something that has the option to overclock if desired.

mobo and ram I got like $200 give or take a bit would like onboard video and sound, so many options to choose from im getting confused.

Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor - Processors - Desktops

Thanks again
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