what's xml, sql, and whatever else there is?

[<[o_0]>]

i know my html and javascript.

i would like to learn more about the more advance web languages.

like what is peral? sql? xml? dhtml? apache? iis? php? cgi?
there are probably more but i have no clue what they mean, what they are used for.

and there are a ton of resources out there but i dont know where to start looking.

thx in advance. always eager to learn.

[vass0922]

peral? = PERL - scripting language, mostly used in CGI scripts and UNIX SystemAdmin scripts
sql? - SQL is a database only language. Its used for updating/selecting(getting)/deleting data from a database (feel like I'm missing one lol)
xml? This is a whole new world lol, this is a sort of HTML on steroids. You can create your own tags. Used for damn near anything nowadays
dhtml? Dynamic HTML, used for dynamic pages mostly created by scripting languages such as PHP and ASP
apache? The most popular web server available. Free! Open source runs on damn near any OS available.
iis? A decent (VIRUSTARGET) web server from MS, runs on MS only!!
php? another scripting language. TechIMO is run on PHP very popular nowadays with bulletin boards and many pages with dynamic content reading from a database
cgi? Common Gateway Interface. Not really a language per say (I maybe wrong on this one) but more like a ... tool. You use a scripting language to work with CGI to work with the system and databases below (Like I said this one isn't 100% clear to me)

You're missing ASP
ASP = VB Script that creates Dynamic HTML. Can easily be tied to any MS software, and also very popular with the script kiddies.

VBScript = Virus Writing Language Not really, but it is the most popular language for writing them... VB Script is a kind of Visual Basic Lite. Isn't compiled, totally interpreted. Used a lot with webpages (asp as mentioend above) and System Admin on NT stuff.


I'm sure others will be able to add on to this, and possibly correct a few details
especially on cgi lol

[strangerstill]

Well, dhtml (sorry vass) is actually client-side not server-side so it's where the browser provides an object model so that code (javascript, or vbscript on m$ sites) can change the appearance and content of the web page 'on-the-fly' in the browser e.g. dropdown menus, flyouts, tree-view TOCs etc.

See microsoft.com for dhtml in action. Way OTT.

[vass0922]

Ahhhhh ok!
Actually I was feelin' kinda weak on that one too

[<[o_0]>]

i think it's time for me to look into more advance stuff.
perhaps xml? the html on steriods description sounds pretty cool.

do you have an example of an xml website?

[vass0922]

http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/...dom_intro.html

www.planet-source-code.com (or maybe www.planetsourcecode.com ) is another one that doesn't seem to be working currently.

[<[o_0]>]

I'm willing to take up classes or go out to buy books about advance web authoring because I've always been interested.
Wondering what "language(s)" should I invest into? Specifically, which language is the way of the future?

BTW what's oracle?

[vass0922]

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Specifically, which language is the way of the future

Hmmm
Thats a tough one
What is the job of the future?

Pretty personal question. I dont mean that I dont want to answer because its personal, not at all... I mean there are a lot of different opinions. I'm sure if you REALLY (and I mean REALLY) you could probably find somebody to tell you FORTRAN is the language of the future

In reality it really depends on what you want to do with your coding skills. You probably wont know until you've tried a few out. If you want to get into kernel hacking in Linux you HAVE to know C/C++ (mostly C)
If you want to do GUI's in windows, you should know either VB (easy), or Visual C++ (quite difficult)

If you want to work with databases, you'll want to learn some form of SQL (depending on what DB you choose to work with)

If you want to do web stuff, java, php, perl html, xml ...

It all depends on you

Myself, I mostly know VB (boring, but popular language pretty easy to learn... good language to start out with if you want to do GUI's in winders)
I also really like working with Databases, so I know T-SQL. (all SQL is pretty much the same except the non standard forms like T-SQL (microsoft) and PL/SQL (Oracle) have more addtives and preservatives . There is also a standard form of SQL that works with databases like MySQL (which is what this very site runs on) and PostgreSQL.

Oracle is another IT monolith. They are a huge database developer. Most very large sites run on Oracle most likely on a unix box. It is rock stable, and quite fast. It has a better reputation for stability, and dependability than MS's SQL Server. I actually like programming for SQL Server cause I like their GUI's... but we had some problems keeping it stable

So this should at least be a start for you
You'll find really the hardest part of learning programming is simply the fundamentals. Whats a loop, conditional statements procedural code etc. Once you've worked with it awhile you'll start noticing patterns where every language is similar. I'd suggest starting with a language (probably not SQL because they are quite a different animal than the rest) that is not overly complicated (like C++ for instance). Some people like learning with perl, as its a common language and you can get software to run on it for free (linux anyone?)
or if you have a webserver available you could learn PHP and maybe eventually put MySQL in the background (you can truely do all this nearly free if you wish, but plan on investing some time into it)

SO in reality its really up to you where you want to go

[<[o_0]>]

is it possible to run a website off of my computer?
i just want to test somethings out.

like, is it possible to get vbulletin site running off of my computer?
it says that i would need mysql and php on the server. what does that mean and how can i get about putting it on my server?
that is how do i start my own web server.

[Clown]

i can't really tell you much about MySQL, but PhP, you may need to ask your server administrator if you are not sure if the software is on there.