XML to void out the C language?

[newbie~wan]

According to two guys in my IT division who attended a .NET seminar, the goal of XML is to make applications all have web interfaces now and be interoptable across any platform. All languages will be compliled into a common language at the most basic level and it is this consistency that will allow for the same code to work on different platforms.

They said that there is already a hack that will allow this "most fundamental language" to be reverse compiled into any language you want. Say you write something in VB and complile it into whatever this "smallest denominator language" is, then reverse compile it into C.

They said that the advantage of C used to be that the compiled program would be much quicker, but now that all languages will be compiled to this fundamental one, there is no longer any advantage to the complications often involved in writing in C. I guess the goal is to make VB more powerful and wedge out Java and all other languages. M$ is like a devourer of worlds that cannot possible placate their hunger for more.

Anybody else know anything about XML and have something to chime in?

[skuz]

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They said that the advantage of C used to be that the compiled program would be much quicker, but now that all languages will be compiled to this fundamental one, there is no longer any advantage to the complications often involved in writing in C.

If I get it correctly, in 2-3 years, an application such as Notepad will weight 145 MB and require at least 1 GHz.

[storm2k]

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M$ is like a devourer of worlds that cannot possible placate their hunger for more.

i don't really agree with this, but i'm not all about the ms bashing. i may be the only person here who will ever say this, and you may all hate me for it, but i still like microsoft.

[newbie~wan]

Surprised to see you here. I don't know WTF I was thinking when I posted that, but I do believe it. However, I also believe greed is good. It provides people with an incredible motivation to achieve - and this pushes development to new levels in all human endeavors, technological or otherwise. I don't it should be an issue of "liking or disliking". There should be no emotion involved whatsoever, it clouds judgement.

But that's not what this thread is about. Let's close the issue of groundless support or attack for a return to XML.

W/out further ado........XML thoughts please.

[muno]

Isn't java like that too? Working on multiplatform with single compilation.
-M

[sven222]

im with you storm, there is nothing wrong with microsoft.
A goal for any business is to make money, and thats exactley what microsoft are doing, but they are making loads of it. If anyone of the members on this board were the head of a company like microsoft, their tune would change.

sry newbie hehe, ill leave this thread for xml talk

[Chooco]

how can you possibly put C and Java in the same league?
they work differently, they think differently

although you can decompile or try to make it analyse and make it's own copy in a different form it will never be as good. trying to get a program to write the program will just end up in it confusing itself and even if it did have the capability of compiling into another language it would not be as good just as an internet language translator will never work as good as a person who wrote it in that language to start with (human languages, not computer).

[vass0922]

Ok now partially what you said is true however XML has nothing to do with that core language...
Assembly and binary is that root language. When you compile any language thats' what it does is writes in machine language. XML can NOT be used to write an OS there is just no way, therefore C/C++ is REQUIRED at this point in time because it is simply the best language for low level programming w/o having to resort to writing in assembly. XML is the way of the future so to speak for MS I also went to a developers conference for Visual Studio.NET

XML will be used as a standard to represent data in a way that any language can parse.
How this can help...
You can have an application running any platform on the client side, as long as it can see the internet. Write an application in any language... since XML is a standard any language that can parse XML can read it.
So have an app on a linux box that reads data from a database. The server on the other side of the world reads the data from the database and presents it to the client via xml... so you do not require a speciifc API to plug into the database from the client side... it just reads the XML.

Now you may say that anything can do that now, like this here forum. However, it would be very diffcult to write a standard GUI non web browser based app to read the data from this forum

See what I mean?
So no XML will never replace C they are two completely different worlds.

Java and C are in the same class.. they are not in the same class as XML

[muno]

Heh
Guess I should've stayed quiet as I know nothing about programming.
-M

[Chooco]

lol me neither..... since vass is here. how do you get a nice pretty window to work with your program?
like look at the program Calculator in your accessories, it is a very simple program but how do you get that nice friendly-looking interface to it?