Thread: I don' wanna! I don' wanna!
December 27th, 2001, 09:30 PM #1
I don' wanna! I don' wanna!
But now I gotta.
My bosses are convinced that we will have a real domain name, individual e-mail addys, and a website; all hosted by SBCglobal.
They are also convinced that I'm the one to make it happen. Frankly, I'd rather hire someone to write it & let them take the blame for whatever management doesn't like...but management happens to include me, so I'd be chosing the person to write it, and so still take the guff for whatever they do. I guess I gotta do it myself to protect my own butt.
I've written a bit of HTML...waaaay back when....but I need some freebie web authoring software so I don't have to spend a lotta time de-bugging my own junk.
Nothing fancy. No animations. No flash. No counting, logging, none of that. Just a real basic site with some pictures, facts, figures, and e-mail addys.
What do you folks suggest?
December 27th, 2001, 09:35 PM #2
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Why not use one fo the office word programs that also makes web pages? If you are looking for a fast simple solution. It is very simple to use word web pages and then publish them.
That is my only suggestion for lack of something else better. I would see if you already have a program that allows web page designing and use that rather than downloading something.
December 27th, 2001, 09:48 PM #3
Well I've got Word97 & Publisher...but they're both sooo oooold!
I thought something newer & cooler might be appropriate.
I guess I could just crib my wife's site http://www.pupus.50megs.com and paste our company's pictures over the pics of her dogs!
I'm just interested in what folks are using for this stuff. I'm not really interested in becomming a pro webmaster.
'Course I do get carried away some times.....
December 27th, 2001, 10:02 PM #4
I use to use this one.. before I started using dreamweaver.. its free.. and dang good
http://arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/In life one must Chill
December 27th, 2001, 10:05 PM #5
December 27th, 2001, 10:41 PM #6
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Combine Netscape Composer with a bit of HTML where you must and it's easy!
I've used Composer for quite some time to make attractive eBay ads and only rarely have had to add some hand coded HTML. And I don't even know HTML but can look at other's code to see how to do what I want.
I also use Composer to size pictures and put together collections after family gatherings to post on my free web space so family members and relatives can view them across as HTML on different platforms.
Besides being free, it's easy to use I think and I've never read any help screen or info on it. I just started using it with knowledge of how word processors and programming editors dating back to CP/M work.
December 28th, 2001, 03:40 PM #7
Gee! I've got Netscape composer already, and I didn't even realize it!
Maybe I'll give it a try.
As for having a pro website designer...well we really don't do any e-business, nor cater to the general public. What we're really posting is just some general info for our clients.
Something simple is definately in order.
December 28th, 2001, 09:17 PM #8
Heck for what your discribing why not just use FrontPage as it has several Templates to use for a "corporate" layout. And of course with FP it's a breeze to update and modify.
December 28th, 2001, 09:35 PM #9
Click here... (FirstPage2000)
It's amazing and free.
Please stay away from Front Page and Netscape composer and who suggested MSWord!! (tsk, tsk, tsk)
Do you guys have a brochure or something that already has the text you want to input into the site? If so base you web page around it's design. That way your customers can click on keywords that they already know about in your brochure and it saves a lot of Graphic design headaches.
Don't forget to use Jpegs with about 80% compression for the pics and stay away from any animated Gifs. Keep your menu's to one side and keep the design simple and clean (I'm sounding abit like Nielson here aren't I?). Try to learn about CSS for an easy way to update your styles and format.Bill S.
V8PC.com/web <-- logo comp
December 28th, 2001, 09:54 PM #10
I used to be quite the happening designer, (incl. awards from the Society of Illustrators, Graphics Guild,) (BRAG! ) but I never could transition to 'puters, which is what took over.
But if it's basic layout that you need, I could draw a few things for you, fax 'em over, with instructions on color, where to drop pix, maybe even design heads as they would appear as logos, etc.
All I would need is for you to put what needs to be on the pages, and I could send layouts based on that.
This is exactly what I did on the woodworking section of my website, and it translated through Tracey (the web creator) quite satisfactorily.
If that sounds do-able, I'd be happy to assist. I'm doing ****-all else, LOL!
December 28th, 2001, 10:22 PM #11
Thanks for the kind offers, Knothead, et al.
We really don't have anything up-to-date in print, so I'm gonna be busy rounding up stuff, scanning photos, whipping the secretary to type faster, etc. (Well, not really the whipping part )
What's the objection to Netscape Composer? (Mine came with Netscape ver 4.75 BTW) I've been playing with it a bit & it looks like a pretty easy job compared to writing all those tags by hand.
I've heard that some stuff done on Netscape won't run on IE properly, but I'm not using anything fancy or any flashing banners, or any crap like that.
We're just consulting structural engineers. We're boring by nature. Our website is gonna be boring too.
December 28th, 2001, 10:49 PM #12
You will find the colours come out different between netscape and IE. You should have both browsers running while you are building so you can look at them both so you can see what it will look like when you are done - you can see alot of the colour problems if you browse Geocities and Yahoo. Based on our experience and a used copy of FP98 - it's relatively easy to use, especially the templates like Mntsnow said.
Good Luck building the cyber-structure - wizofid
December 28th, 2001, 10:51 PM #13We're just consulting structural engineers. We're boring by nature. Our website is gonna be boring too.
Would you not gain stature among yer boring working stiff peers, if you created a site that made everybody go, "Wow! What the hell was THAT??"
And then, dear Cadd, imagine the possibilities thereon, where word gets around about this site...ppl saying "WOW! Here's a link to a bunch of Structural Engineers...dunno, but it's so HIP!!
I guess these guys are pretty far out after all!"
And THEN..." phrases like 'flying buttress'...and 'load bearing'...and...er, well you get the idea, these phrases enter the popular vernacular, as a result of your website...The ENGINEERS RETAKE THE GROUND NOW HELD BY LAWYERS AND...and...
Or not. Your decision...Yo' buddy, The Knothead
December 28th, 2001, 11:15 PM #14
Hey, Wiz...I see whatcha mean. The stuff does look different.
"Wow! What the hell was THAT??"
They already say stuff like "How the hell do you figure this stuff out?" and "Where the hell do you find all this stuff?" and "How the hell did you get it to work? I tried everything!"
You see, I'm the resident computer geek here, and none of these other guys have ever even installed a floppy drive before. Let alone built a network, configured a complex program, written any hard code, or even a web page.
On the other hand, both of my kids, my wife, and I all already have websites on these freebie website servers, and they all know it. So anything really difficult they'll fail to appreciate for what it is, thinking instead that "Well even kids can do that stuff."
And, pretty much, they're right. Anybody that can click enough to run AOL can have a website.
So I don't need to impress, and in the long run, it's a waste of effort.
December 28th, 2001, 11:27 PM #15So I don't need to impress, and in the long run, it's a waste of effort.
(notice I don't say, "DA KNOT!")
DA KNOT! Heheheh, I lied
December 28th, 2001, 11:37 PM #16
December 29th, 2001, 09:21 AM #17
I have to agree with BITM@D, FirstPage is great it can setup all the basic stuff just as soon as you open it and it has buttons that insert anything into the page you just tell it what to put where. Then as you learn more or need to do something more complex it has beginer, normal, Advanced, and Hardcore levels.
December 31st, 2001, 05:10 AM #18
Thanks again to all.
I played around with Composer some more, and it certainly seems a lot easier than what I do every day at work, so I'll probably just use it. Maybe when I post the first draft, some users with diff versions of Netscape, IE, Opera, etc. Will browse it for me as a test.
I'm not too concerned, if it works in IE, as our clients almost all use M$ stuff exclusively.
I'll post back when I've got a domain & something up.
December 31st, 2001, 05:45 AM #19
do they have
do they have frontpage server extensions installed? if so can use frontpage you can use it without the extensions just everything is done by ftp and some of features not avail but you said you werent going to use things that would need them.
am doing such a site for a construction company let me know if you want to see whats up so far so you might get an idea
or hey i'm job hunting lol
"I Am A GOD In Training .... Just Wait Till It Catches On!"
December 31st, 2001, 07:15 PM #20
Is this just going to be a basic, static site? No database backend or anything?
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